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		<title>Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The following is a description of my attempt to open a bank account with HSBC Egypt: I enter the branch and find about three dozen bored customers calmly waiting for their number to be called. Where to obtain a number is non-obvious, so I hang around waiting for someone to finish at the desk closest [...]]]></description>
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The following is a description of my attempt to open a bank account with HSBC Egypt:</p>
<p>I enter the branch and find about three dozen bored customers calmly waiting for their number to be called. Where to obtain a number is non-obvious, so I hang around waiting for someone to finish at the desk closest to the door. After five minutes of standing dumbly, I hear a woman&#8217;s voice behind me say in English, &#8220;Can I help you, sir?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Ah, yes! I would like to open an account here.&#8221;</p>
<p>The woman, in her early 30s, I guess, furrows her brow and says, &#8220;Hmm. Ok, please wait a minute.&#8221;</p>
<p>I sit down and join the gathered, immobile Egyptians. The woman returns and asks for my passport. She disappears and I&#8217;m left alone for several minutes staring at the pretty tellers processing the masses.</p>
<p>The woman returns again and asks, in front of the entire waiting room, &#8220;How much will you be depositing today?&#8221; I say quietly, &#8220;About $800.&#8221; &#8220;$800,000&#8243; she says loudly. &#8220;No problem.&#8221; I had no bag. Where the hell did she think I was stashing over three quarters of a million dollars on me?</p>
<p>I correct her. She says, &#8220;Well, you know, we require a minimum of $2,000 in an account. Will you be able to do that?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Yes. But I&#8217;ll need to transfer money from my US bank.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;But you will be able to maintain that, yes?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Um, yes.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Please follow me.&#8221; She leads me to a desk in the back of the large room. I realize she thinks I want to open an account in US dollars, so I tell her that I&#8217;m a student at the AUC and that I&#8217;m just looking to open an account in Egyptian pounds.</p>
<p>&#8220;Egyptian pounds?&#8221; She looks worried. &#8220;But, why?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Because I now live in Egypt and want to pay bills here.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;What sort of bills?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Oh, I don&#8217;t know. Rent, tuition&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;But you can do those in cash here. Egyptians work mostly in cash.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Yes, but I would also like to open a cell phone account and they require a bank account.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I see. Well, you will need to maintain at least 5,000 Egyptian pounds in this bank account. Will you be able to do that?&#8221;</p>
<p>This is getting annoying. &#8220;Seeing as it&#8217;s considerably less than the $2,000 I would have been able to maintain in a US dollar account, then yes.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Hmm. So you have Egyptian pounds with you today?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;No, I would like to exchange my dollars for pounds and deposit them.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Oh! I wouldn&#8217;t do that! We don&#8217;t give a very good exchange rate here.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;What&#8217;s the rate?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t know. But I know it&#8217;s much better outside the bank.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Can you suggest a place where I will get a better rate?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;No, I&#8217;m sorry. I don&#8217;t know.&#8221;</p>
<p>Despite all this, I decide to proceed with opening the account. I defer depositing my money so I can find a better exchange rate. I tell her this and she warns me that there is a 40 pound fee per month for each time my account is under 5,000 pounds.</p>
<p>&#8220;When will this fee occur?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t know! The system does it! Only the system knows!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;So I have to deposit my money today?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;No, no. You can do it later.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Good,&#8221; I say. &#8220;I&#8217;ll come back tomorrow.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;We&#8217;re closed tomorrow.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;OK. I&#8217;ll come Saturday.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;We&#8217;re closed Saturday. It&#8217;s our weekend.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Sunday it is.&#8221;</p>
<p>She hands me a letter &#8220;welcoming&#8221; me to HSBC. At the bottom of the letter it says I will receive a copy of all the documents I signed stating fees, conditions, etc. I ask her for these copies.</p>
<p>&#8220;What do you mean?&#8221; she asks.</p>
<p>&#8220;This letter states I will get copies of everything.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;What? Really?&#8221; She takes the letter and looks at it. &#8220;No, no. This letter is the documents [sic] it&#8217;s talking about.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;No, it&#8217;s not.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Yes, yes it is.&#8221;</p>
<p>We go back and forth about the meaning of the sentence. It&#8217;s only when we reach abstract opinions on the need for self-referential documents to exist that I give up. I&#8217;m returning on Sunday to close the account. Sure, I&#8217;m losing the 40 pound account opening fee, but if it&#8217;s this much hassle just to give them my cash, just imagine how hard it will be to get it back.</p>
<p>Welcome to Egypt.</p>
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		<title>Rainbow Power</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lazy Friday video: People who missed 4th grade science have access to video cameras:<br />
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<p>Thanks to <a href="http://www.boingboing.net">Boingboing</a> for revealing this video.</p>
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